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Initiatives Oversight Committee: Meetings & Calls

IOC Committee Meeting Minutes
March 28, 2000

IOC members present: Vickie Patton, Bob Amundson, Tom Webb (for Amy Zimpfer), Chris Shaver, Dave Mills, Andy Ginsburg

Others Present: Patrick Cummins, Bill Grantham, Colleen Delaney, Colleen McKaughn, Sara Laumann, Fred Roach, Dave Brookshire, Mike Teague, C.V. Mathai, John Bunyak, John Crouch

The following are notes from the meeting. Consensus agreements are in bold type. Follow-up items are in bold italics type.

1. The IOC approved the appointment of Bob Neufeld, Wyoming Refining, as a co-chair for the Mobile Sources Committee, replacing Cathy Reheis, who resigned.

2. Budget

Pat Cummins provided an overview of the current budget. The budget for the FY99 tasks has been approved and we should be getting the money from EPA shortly. The National Tribal Environmental Council had been receiving money directly from EPA; that will no longer be happening so we need to fund NTEC through the WRAP just like WGA. Our current WRAP budget is about twice what we anticipate receiving from EPA.

3. Market Trading Forum - Colleen Delaney

The IOC approved the appointment of Colleen Delaney as the MTF co-chair.

The MTF will probably not have a consensus document for the WRAP meeting in May. The forum is currently working on identifying the issues, work status and presenting a package to the IOC and the WRAP looking for the direction on how to move forward.

The IOC agreed that Ira Domsky would draft a response for the IOC to send to Dennis Arfmann's letter on behalf of CACI.

Colleen provided a quick overview of the MTF.

Areas of Agreement: trading program elements, program administration, opt in/opt out for states and tribes, interim milestone methodology.

Areas of Disagreement: 2018 milestone, RA BART, allocation, averaging, uncertainty, banking

Key Dates: next MTF meeting on April 12 - 13; summary report available the week of April 17, mail package to WRAP on April 24, WRAP meeting on May 9 - 10.

Vickie suggested that hiring a contractor to help with some of the data analysis would be very helpful.

Tom Webb stated the EPA is in the process of developing what they feel would be an acceptable number for 2018. EPA will try to complete this package by April 7 for discussion at the MTF meeting on April 12 and 13. People from OAQPS would be available to attend this meeting.

Next steps: The IOC will have a meeting in Phoenix on April 14 from 8 - 5, following the MTF meetings on April 12 and 13. That IOC meeting will focus on developing a comprehensive and clear package for recommendation to the WRAP for taking to public comment. There will be another IOC meeting on May 9 from 9 - 11 immediately before the WRAP meeting.

4. Economic Analysis Forum - David Brookshire, Fred Roach

The forum still consists of only the two co-chairs; we need to figure out where we go from here.

The RFP went out for $100k to develop impact analysis for the MTF; positive and negative, across sectors. Three different scenarios will be analyzed: implementation of 308 (command and control); simulate 309 (SO2 cap) without the market being triggered; simulate 309 with the cap and market triggered. June 15 draft results, July 15 final report. Contractor will also help with response to public comment. The contractor will be selected on May 1. The IOC agreed that the group that developed the RFP (Vickie Patton, Dave Mills, John Nielson, Ursula Kramer, Fred Roach, David Brookshire) would also be the interview panel. Anyone who has specific questions for the interview should send those questions to Dave Mills.

A Benefit/Cost analysis has also been suggested for the MTF.

A third analysis could consist of running a set of behavioral analyses to model the market.

In addition to the MTF work, what other needs do we have for economic analysis forum?

The IOC agreed that a model that may work: people the EAF with economists who can act as liaisons to the other forums and integrate economics into the forums' work. Those liaisons would then bring that information back to the forum and to a post-doc who would act as a resource. The IOC will try to make recommendations regarding possible members.

Budget: Leave $100k in FY'00 to fund a post-doc; leave $200k for FY'01. Most of the actual economics work is funded directly through the forums' budgets.

5. Air Pollution Prevention Forum - Doug Larsen

Three charges: renewables, energy efficiency, energy

Group has focused on the renewables piece. Meetings to approve scoping paper, 1st draft of report on renewables, moved from recommendations to analysis of impacts. Work Group was formed to conduct back-of-the-envelope calculations on economic impact. June 30 is deadline for final report. The tribal piece of this is on a slightly different track and is expected to be done by the end of the year.

Energy efficiency - hope to begin this issue in May. Scoping of efficiency opportunities in May; final report next year.

A more thorough analysis will be required to ensure everyone feels comfortable with the renewables and efficiency recommendations. The forum will make recommendations on further needs.

Economic development - not started yet. Would include things like attracting low-polluting industry.

Budget: forum received $70k from DOE to begin report on renewables. Forum will also ask DOE for further funding to continue the work. Tribes requested $70k from the WRAP for related work on tribal lands regarding this issue.

$10k to finish renewables

$40k for efficiency work (with $60k from DOE)

More uncertainty associated with the outside contractor to analyze impacts. John Nielson is doing the back-of-the-envelope calculations. John indicates that about $150k would be required for the contractor to complete the cost/benefit work.

Tribal work will require additional funds of $35k.

Outreach is not included in this budget and would require additional funds.

Bill Grantham stated that the tribal costs would be about $20k each for the renewables and efficiency pieces, plus about $95k for outreach strategies. These costs are included in the NTEC budget.

6. Mobile Sources Forum - John Kowalczyk

Three deliverables - emission tracking system (including glide path to decrease mobile emissions); methodology to meet those goals; input to modeling.

These all count on a very good mobile source emission inventory.

Four tasks $900k for contractor work

Suggested exploring a few options to cutting budget - shifting schedules to delay the work until we can get the money; look for other sources of funding; ask for delay in 309 deadline.

1. Baseline inventory

2. Emission forecasting - $200k FY00; may get some DOT funding; although the projections will go beyond 20 years, the increase in cost is fairly small to continue the projections into the future. The forum is planning to look at criteria pollutants. The IOC asked that the forum expand the inventory contract to determine how much additional funding would be required to obtain air toxics inventory information.

3. Strategies to reduce emissions - $400k in FY00. Cost effectiveness analysis for on-road and off-road strategies. This may be reduced depending on what the forum determines with the rest of its work as necessary. This entire funding could be shifted to FY01.

4. Public review - $50k. This could be shifted to FY01, too.

7. In and Near forum - John Bunyak, John Crouch

Two tasks: emissions inventory and gateway demonstration project.

$50k will do about 8 - 9 park inventories; they will not be able to inventory every park, but this will combine with ongoing NPS work to give a very good overview of the western parks. Sent survey form to several parks to gather preliminary information that will help the contractor get started.

Develop a "cookbook" for a gateway community so they could do their own microinventory. Some of the $75k for the demonstration project could be shifted. There are two pieces: the conference and the actual conduct of the work. Could leave $50k in for FY00 to conduct microinventory; shift $25k to hold conference. This is also an outreach effort to bring this information out for further attention.

8. Fire Emissions Joint Forum - Pete Lahm

Personnel issues - there is currently not an IOC liaison; there is only one tribal representative.

The work is generally key and some has already been deferred; there may be about 10% that could be shifted from FY00 to FY01. There may be a small amount (about 20%) that could be funded by other sources. EPA may also be a source of support and/or funding.

9. WRAP meeting

Pat explained that there are three key items on the agenda for the WRAP meeting, the annex, the budget and organizational issues. Pat suggested that the IOC may want to provide a quick overview of the major work tasks going on in each of the forums.

 

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